關於這個blog

如果blog是一個archive,那整個運動的資料若存放得好,紀錄下來的,本身就是歷史,這也就,不會輕易拆掉、然後忘記。如果blog是一個連結,那不同界別的朋友因天星互相認識,bloggers互相連結,之後繼續合作,也就是天星運動的甜美。如果blog就是個人參與,在提供資料之後,就是希望大家可以推廣出去,然後,走出去…… 這才是真的民主,參與式民主。 晨 anson 麥海珊

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38 responses to “關於這個blog

  1. Raymond Lau

    麥海珊:

    本人希望於十二月二十四日的晚會能和平進行,避免有人生事。

    另外,在人民規劃中,本人建議不但要復修天星和保留皇后碼頭,還要保留大會堂。

    在要保留的建築物中,本人提議要保留大會堂和尖沙咀碼頭。

  2. Raymond Lau

    麥海珊 :

    本人望希在明晚的「復修天星 保衛皇后」的晚會上告訴香港市民這運動的目的是:讓市民知道市民有保護本土文化的責任;告訴政府有責任承擔她所犯的錯──政府在中環第三期填海計劃諮詢文件中沒有提及清拆天星碼頭及皇后碼頭,令公眾誤以為政府不會清拆天星碼頭及皇后碼頭,犯了不誠實及誤導公眾的錯。所以政府應承擔一切後果,懲治犯錯的官員,而不是將責任歸於公眾沒有提出保留天星碼頭及皇后碼頭建議。

    本人希望該晚會能夠和平進行,帶出保留本土文化的訊息。

  3. i am not the organizer of the gathering tomorrow. i just help to post the info. if you want to talk tomorrow, i am sure there will be time open to the floor to talk. you can tell them you want to talk.

    thanks.
    anson

  4. beyondthestars

    also, rayomd, would u pls add your comment to related post so that others can read it according to the event? for instance, you can add your comment to the post on 晚會。
    thanks.

  5. ky_yin

    我諗到個[食字] 可能岩你地用

    [遺產]
    文化[唯摌]

    如果要留名就留

    [愛真正的香港-許樂]

  6. Victory of People’s Power | Local Action at Queen’s Pier – 1 July 2007

    Hi

    Here is my Photo Essay dedicated to the brave and courageous young people known as “Local Action" who serve the people of Hong Kong selflessly.

    It documents what happened at Queen’s Pier between 6 pm and 9:30 pm on 1 July 2007.

    Victory of People’s Power | Local Action at Queen’s Pier – 1 July 2007
    http://photo.phyang.org/queens_pier.htm

    Chinese version coming soon.

    Please disrtibute widely.

    Enjoy
    PH

    P H Yang Photography
    Feast on dazzling images at: http://www.phyang.org/

  7. yan

    我同意皇后碼頭對某些人是有一定的意義,但是否所謂集體回憶,至少我未有特別感覺。
    是否保留一些經歷數十載的建築物就是保育?口口聲聲為教育下一代,社會怎樣發展進步?火車需否返回燒煤年代?大家可否改用蠟燭照明,不用電,返回石器時代?
    人對於某此事情積極提出意見,不論正反,都是一種表達;對政府政策的意見,又是另一種的公民意識。只要表達方式是正確、和平及理性,我相信社會大眾以致政府都樂意接受及討論。
    我眼見現今大部份的表達都是透過遊行、集會、靜坐等方式進行,而其中更有多次激烈、擾亂社會行為。
    這是什麼文化?是表達、討論、或是、煽動搗亂呢?尤其是一些自言有受高等教育的文化份子及那些尊貴的立法局議員,經常帶頭起烘;這是文明還是野蠻,那又有何法治秩序可言。
    於今日在皇后碼頭的表達,當主持呼叫羣眾表達時,一些人舉起他不想見到的牌時,他竟然一而再,再而三地重覆他的問題,以致所有人舉起他想見的答覆,先致罷休。要留意的是當中轉呔的都是長者。他們是否清楚知道要作出表達的目,還是在被利用呢?這又是什麼民意?

  8. 我都想知道香港特區政府有沒有徹底落實可持續發展?

  9. titan

    你地講政府早已決定折碼頭,從歷史角色看是對的,早在九十年代規劃;○二年更獲立法會 撥款三十五億元;○三年又通過了司法覆核,但係既然早已知道皇后碼頭會有折的危機,又唔見你地一直有所行動。從全盤事件去看,根本你地阻不了政府折天星,先再阻政府折皇后碼頭。平日又唔見你地講下有幾愛皇后碼頭,到要折就忽然珍惜,出來搞風搞雨,扮出好愛皇后碼頭。但係在星期日的論壇中駡人多過討論,感性多過理性,扮代表。你地d所謂ge行動好噁心!收皮啊﹗

  10. I support Carrie Lam

    You lot didn’t use your brain!

    I will come to Queen Peer tomorrow(Wed) to discuss with you lot about this problem.

  11. 您好! 我來自馬來西亞, 我曾經到過香港旅遊, 也到過 “皇后碼頭 “…. 我認識 “皇后碼頭 " 是因為很多香港的電視劇都曾經到那兒取景!! 所以自然的就認識了這地方 — " 皇后碼頭 “!! 蠻帶有 “親切" 感的一個地方~~

    知道 “皇后碼頭 " 要清拆了~~ 感覺有點失落!! 😦

  12. 知道皇后碼頭要清拆的新聞後, 也在自己的部落格寫了對 “皇后碼頭" 的心聲!!

    http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/bonnielcy

  13. MB

    2007年7月31日的晚上,我隨機的向徘徊皇后碼頭的市民提出了一個問題:
    「皇后碼頭快要永別,這刻你會想向她說一句甚麼?」

    10:05 pm

    只想叫妳唔好走,冇好講。
    孔女士(約六十歲)

    唔捨得妳,妳消失係政府錯,妳冇得選擇,冇得補償,再起番都冇意思。
    左先生(約五十歲)

    安息……咁多人都保妳唔倒。
    屈先生(約四十餘歲)

    10:15pm

    心中永遠的皇后……不是最後……
    陳小姐 (約二十餘歲)

    教識我好多,我會發揮妳精神。
    原人 (約二十餘歲)

    妳曾經歷史中佔一席位,呢刻冇,但存在過,妳係有價值。
    何先生(約四十歲)

    何日君再來
    白先生(約五十餘歲)

    珍惜,珍重。
    Samson (約二十餘歲)

    可一不可再……失去的不一定能夠搵番。
    陳先生(約三十歲)

    天下無不散之筵席
    鄭先生(約二十餘歲)

    10:25pm

    Bye Bye
    William (11歲)

    I Love You
    阿牛(約五十歲)

    大家珍重,非小市民能力之內……
    黃先生(約五十歲)

    再見,會再見。
    黃小姐 (約二十歲)

    我永遠見倒妳
    曾先生(約四十歲)

    10:35pm

    好掛住!
    Jess (約五十餘歲)

    Bye Bye
    馬朗澄先生(約二十餘歲)

    節哀順變!
    林鈴小姐 (約二十餘歲)

    安息,到此刻冇乜好做。
    劉先生(二十來歲)

    Bye Bye ……都係唔講,因為講再見即係唔會再見,想留希望下次再見。
    Hester (約二十餘歲)

    10:45pm

    Good Bye. QE Pier
    Joe (約四十歲)

    我會陪埋妳最後呢程。
    鄭小姐(約三十歲)

    生死契闊
    漢(約二十歲)

    11:00pm

    妳保重喇!
    李先生(約五十歲)

    11:10pm

    會好掛住妳!
    Helen…(約三十歲)

    開開心心咁走,既然過去就過去,回憶會留每個人心中,拆不等如不再存在。
    Ell (約二十餘歲)

    11:15pm

    妳好唔抵!
    凡 (女,約二十餘歲)

    不枉此生。
    Wallace (約二十餘歲)

    我會永遠愛妳。
    Laura (約二十餘歲)

    11:35pm

    請妳好好保重。
    Gary (約二十餘歲)

    對唔住。
    Raymond (約三十歲)

    唔好啦,唔好啦,俾我陪妳啦,我父母度結婚、我自己度結婚,我想個仔都可以度結婚。
    潮(約三十歲)

    11:45pm

    想同妳飲杯啤酒,不醉無歸!
    Jordi (約二十餘歲)

    我冇好好保護妳,對唔住。
    Winnie (約二十歲)

    妳要永遠痴住海邊。
    鄧先生(約三十餘歲)

    11:50pm

    無論妳去到邊,請妳保留香港人的身份,妳係香港人。
    袁先生(約四十歲)

    00:00

    抗議!
    魚仔(女,約三十歲)

    2007年8月1日12:34pm,這報告剛完成,電視傳來第一位示威人士被警察抬離皇后碼頭的畫面。

  14. JAMES LI

    哈,BBC 同埋 CCTV 搞假新聞,呢度d未達成熟度數既人士就搞左d假訪問,好幼稚呀))))))))!

  15. JAMES LI

    如果你們能勇敢點面對及認清楚得不到絕大部份市民支持的事實,同時不是思想簡單地埋怨絕大部祇是缺乏保育的理性,或許你們便會快高長大一點吧!?

  16. JAMES LI

    更重要的是,皇后碼頭並不是你們這幾人士的私人財產! 不要打厚自己的面皮及偽造自己的能力,失控高喊是代表700多萬香港市民,失控高喊要教育700多萬香港市民吧!

    江澤晚話齋: TOO SIMPLE, SOMETIMES NAIVE!

  17. k07

    Queen’s Pier is not our private property, I agreed what you said; However, it’s not mean that Government can take it from us because Queen’s Pier is property of HK Citizen;

    They are not naive and I believe that you’re naive to say that.

  18. Ivy

    Sacrifice is needed for society development. I agree that Queen’s pier give HK people lots of memories. But we cannot just stay here and always looks back to the history without considering the future. You guys always said that Queen’s Pier has to been kept for the next generations and tells them the history of HK. But providing a better future for them is the most important. All the protestants, please think more before your action. Your action is wasting the resources of HK people. Your “silly" action (sorry to use this word) costs lot of police and fireman human resources. Do you think that it is for the best intrest of HK? If you think you have good reasons and most of HK people support, please raise your concerns in advance, not at the last moment. If you are willing to strave nad hurt yourself to protect the Pier now, you must be capable to think a better solution to ask the govenment to keep the Pier earlier. But really sorry, I don’t think you got the support of most HK people in this issue, at least not mine and my friends. Honest speaking, do you have confidence to “win" if there is a public vote on this issue? So, don’t do things without considerations. From TV, I know all of you are young people and students. I’m also 23 year-old. Please use your energy and initiatives to do more contructive things for our HK.

  19. k07

    Since you’re 23 years old, I understand what’s your view on Queen’s Pier, for people like me, always went to Queen’s Pier for fishing, studying and dating, there’s lots of valuable memory;

    The point from the actoin this time is not only fight to keep Queen’s Pier; It also indicated that our government will not listen public opinion before take further action even government’s official, include Chief executive kept tell you they were listening;

    Since they did not launch any public survey, how they can tell HK Citizens are willing to give up our Queen’s Pier to developers / landlord make more money by rent out their office space, IFC2 is typical example.

    I understand that different people have their own opinion but I will suggest you to take a look at whole picture, not become people like our government’s official, too self-centre, always ignore any voices & treat them as anti-voice.

  20. Wesley

    本土行動的朋友們, 你們可好嗎?…本人雖未真正與你們交談, 但在個多月前已開始替 [皇后] 影相, 所以你們大多的臉孔我都能認出, 經過幾個星期六或日的接觸, 在你們的臉上我睇到憂心, 堅決, 憤怒, 及擇善固執的精神.令我不自覺地關心起這個 [皇后] 的將來.
    八月一日中午,警察清場.在電視上看見熟悉的面孔為著 [皇后] 寸步不讓, 面對用納稅人繳交金錢而訓練有素的警察卻沒有退讓, 奮勇抵抗.心中不禁替香港人振奮但同時也為你們身處險境而擔心.始終他們裝備精良,訓練有素而你們只是一班手無搏雞之力的年青人.雖然阻止不了圍板行動.幸好你們沒有受到太大傷害.
    在此多謝大家為著香港保育而作出努力更希望大家所付出既汗水沒有白費.
    支持皇后碼頭原址保留!!

  21. 你地依班所謂受過高等教育文化份子,我係這次事件中只係覺得你地係香港既滋事份子,專攪破壞、擾亂香港既秩序,說甚麼為著香港既保育,可笑﹗

  22. wesley, thanks for your mail. do you have a blog with pics? pls share with us.
    anson

  23. JAMES LI

    yup, may be u are right that i am too naive to leave comment with this site hoping for your high quality rebuttal .

    thr fact of your daubing n blotting the pier telling me that u are just the fake conservationist and troubler maker.

    i hv nothing to say except “U MAKE HK PEOPLE FEELING VERY 火滾)))))))!"

  24. for james li:
    i would like to know your concrete reponse on the issues raised in the
    special issue responding to govt request.
    we have a concrete plan from professional acrhitect and engineers
    which solve ALL problems the govt riased.
    did you read this?
    how did your respond?
    http://www.chonghead.net/files/special_issue.pdf

    if you have a concrete plan (professional one) for the govt and they
    don’t hear you at all and no response at all? what will you think?

    we are no trouble makers.

    pls also read this:
    梁文道: 時間站在我們這邊——給林鄭月娥的一封公開信
    http://www.inmediahk.net/public/article?item_id=250375

    at least, know all points we riased before making comments.

    we did read ALL govt papers and respond and that why we know how teh
    govt cheated us.
    did u read all govt’s paper?

  25. 霖,

    我想您可以看清楚我們是什麼人,我們什麼人也有的,不是您說的「高等教育文化份子」。看看馬仔的故事:
    http://www.inmediahk.net/public/article?item_id=223793&group_id=72

    請真正的了解我們。
    在批評之前,是否應該了解清楚才說哩?
    這是基本的事,對嗎?

  26. 霖, 也請讀些星期日的明報。
    有關於本土行動是什麼不同的人組成的資料。

  27. Char

    i m a HK Citizen as well, but wat i saw yesterday near Queen’s Pier, POLICE did a GOOD job whereas those ‘fake students/conservationists’ kept on insulting police officers……..i saw those geeks assulted the police officers instead!!!!!GOSSH!!!!

    SHAME on these trouble makers!!!!!!
    LOseR will alway apply to 本土行動
    pls read from the web, HK ppl won’t support u……..u guys only want to make a show instead u were making a SHIT!!!!@@@@

  28. Char,
    if we were just to make a show, we shall not spend that much time and hard work on many things including this special feature,
    pls read it here:
    http://www.chonghead.net/files/special_issue.pdf
    and cutlural tours for students to know the history of central district.

    how can you know most people don’t support (not us, but the ideas and concrete plan we do for the govt?)
    we don’t need you to support us (we are no heros). we hope people will support our plans, concrete plans and suggestions for govt to make a better treatment on reclaimation and the situation of stars ferry and queens.

    for details of the plans, pls read our special feature.
    http://www.chonghead.net/files/special_issue.pdf
    and again, it is important to really understand what we are doing before making such comments.

    in a way, your writing is not a comment, it is just an emotional statment.
    and we make concrete plans.

    we are not shouting at the police, we are blaming the “govt" which made the police being againist us.

    thank you.

  29. 皇后碼頭式鬧劇陸續有來

     皇后碼頭的鬧劇結束,請願者成功表演了一場大騷,對他們所屬的政治團體有所交代,在清拆皇后碼頭的歷史上留下一筆。至於香港政府亦上演了一幕小媳婦遇上惡家姑,克制顧全大局的悲情劇,博取觀眾的同情。市民看罷這場「胡鬧悲劇」,離開戲院,內心感受如何?

     首先這批請願者,已經預先導演了清場行動時的準備,甚麼人鏈、鐵鏈、單車鏈全部出齊,由皇后碼頭的地面玩到上蓋,拉長劇情,盡量去侮辱這個「小媳婦」,令到她的尊嚴受損,亦睇準「小媳婦」一定無可奈何,在百多個記者鏡頭、多個電視台的直播下,這個小媳婦必定要乖乖就範,忍氣吞聲,一齊陪玩,愈玩愈興奮,愈玩愈過癮,已經去到瘋狂境界。保育皇后碼頭,高院下周二將會有聆訊,但這批請願者已經一概不理,反正就是「玩」,保育的理據已經拋到腦後。

     陪玩的另一個主角香港政府,相信一眾高官,在清場行動之前,已經頻頻開會,策劃如何扮演「小媳婦」角色,結果成功了。香港政府的清場行動,出動超過100名警員,包括男、女警、藍帽子,另外尚有消防員、救護員、地政總署人員、醫管局、律政官員……等不下數百人一齊陪玩之外,現場的工作人員一道堅守的命令,必須要克制,警員抬走請願者,不能傷了他們一根毫髮,請願者離場的意願第一,他們要步行就步行,要上車就上車,噓寒問暖,全套做齊,甚至連請願者都「不好意思」。

     胡鬧悲劇暫時結束,但下集尚未完結,基本上這個破碎的家庭已成定局,惡家姑霸道得逞,哪還會轉性?日日「玩」天天罵,那個小媳婦在忍耐之餘,不停地呼籲,呼籲惡家姑轉性,如果呼籲、講道理可以達到目的,就不會有這場胡鬧劇上演,鬧劇預計將會不斷公演,視乎這名小媳婦知否轉性。

     對於這些無日無之的鬧劇,我們感到非常悲哀,香港人不斷的內鬥,不斷消耗香港人的精力,政府策劃如何清場,估計三司十二局的官員,起碼用了幾日時間去部署,單是計他們的時薪,已經不得了,更何況動員九個部門數百人去碼頭,由朝到晚,虛耗的人力物力,全部都是納稅人的損失,這些損失無窮無盡,如果他們的精力可以用在其他方面,得失雙計,損失就更加慘重。

     本欄相信,絕大部分的香港市民,均希望社會和諧,大家理性地為香港的前途作出貢獻,但在現時的環境之下,這個基本的希望很難達到,有人為了抗爭而抗爭,而第三屆特區政府亦將會花上大量時間處理,香港的繁榮安定,不會退步已算萬幸。

    2004 Sing Pao Newspaper Co. Ltd. All rights reserved. 成報報刊有限公司 版權所有 不得轉載

  30. k07

    To: James Li

    Since you also consider you’re maybe too naive, I believe the blog reader will not blame what you said and also will not care what you said so.

    As I said before, everybody can express their own opinion. However, please mind yourself about what you said because, I believe most of us will not point the finger to anybody, just discuss about the matter of Government’s action = not listening to public opinion at all. If you have time, I would recommend you to read those links in this website, you may change your mind. I also suggest you to read more history about HK old building as well as Hong Kong.

    We all need to survive by working in this commercial city, but sometimes we deserved to maintain some historical memory. Macau is a very good example… again, think before you say.

    Best wishes,

  31. 請問如何加入本土行動 ?
    謝謝

  32. JAMES LI

    如果你們能勇敢點,理性點面對及認清楚得不到絕大部份香港市民支持的事實,同時不是思想簡單地埋怨絕大部祇香港市民是缺乏保育的理性,或許你們便會快高長大一點吧!?

    更重要的是,皇后碼頭並不是你們這幾位偽保育人士的私人財產! 不要打厚自己的面皮及偽造自己的能力,失控高喊是代表700多萬香港市民,失控高喊要教育700多萬香港市民吧!

    就算江澤晚唔話你地係 TOO SIMPLE, SOMETIMES NAIVE! 目弟 黎你地都會面紅啦))))!
    尤其是叫自己做ko7果個呀)))))!

  33. james,
    we didn’t claim we represent all people. NO ONE can represent all people. we are saying the requests of people using the space everyday. people’s space mean people using the space and it is a PUBLIC space. mean everyone can use that.
    the other issue related to the pier (not just queen and stars) is that hk’s public space is getting less and less. PEOPLE without any money or not willing to “pay" enjoy less and less the habour and the city which belongs TO ALL.

    pls understand all the MANY rationals of local actions before commenting.

    and again, you still haven’t reply concretely on the plan we haev for the govt that solve all technical questions they raised.

    do you really know what happen to the space/spots after the two piers are gone?
    do you really know?

    anson
    web master

  34. Ivan

    對不起, 打攪了。

    我的朋友遺失了舊天星碼頭最後一天派發的八達通套, 裡面有著她和天星的夢。

    不知道有沒有朋友擁有那個舊天星的八達通套又願意割愛? 萬分萬分感謝。

    請聯絡ivan.cm.wong@gmail.com

    多謝版主, 多謝各位。打攪了。

  35. LAM

    http://www.my3q.com/survey/339/tyfwc620/94908.phtml
    主要探討皇后碼頭及美利樓對香港人的重要性。並深入研究這些古蹟對香港不同年齡階層的重要性及其傾向於何種方法處理或對待古蹟及文物。

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